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	<description>break down. rebuild.</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on About by Carole</title>
		<link>http://lisaloren.com/about/#comment-989</link>
		<dc:creator>Carole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are still number one...I would have found you faster if I looked at that first...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are still number one&#8230;I would have found you faster if I looked at that first&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Zen Psychology: Morita Therapy by Lisa Loren</title>
		<link>http://lisaloren.com/2008/01/28/zen-psychology-morita-therapy/#comment-924</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Loren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 01:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm glad I could be of help, Mark.  

Lisa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad I could be of help, Mark.  </p>
<p>Lisa</p>
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		<title>Comment on Zen Psychology: Morita Therapy by Mark Shepard</title>
		<link>http://lisaloren.com/2008/01/28/zen-psychology-morita-therapy/#comment-922</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Shepard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Lisa,

Thank you for this post. In my NLP practice one of my goals is always to assist the client to get to a place where they are "at cause" for their emotion rather than "effect." A "cure" does not mean perfection but that the client can take effective action to be in charge of their own change.

I appreciate knowing about Morita Therapy

Keep up the good work,

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Lisa,</p>
<p>Thank you for this post. In my NLP practice one of my goals is always to assist the client to get to a place where they are &#8220;at cause&#8221; for their emotion rather than &#8220;effect.&#8221; A &#8220;cure&#8221; does not mean perfection but that the client can take effective action to be in charge of their own change.</p>
<p>I appreciate knowing about Morita Therapy</p>
<p>Keep up the good work,</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>Comment on Crazy: A Father&#8217;s Search Through America&#8217;s Mental Health Madness by paragraphein</title>
		<link>http://lisaloren.com/2008/01/04/books2008-001-crazy-a-fathers-search-through-americas-mental-health-madness/#comment-909</link>
		<dc:creator>paragraphein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the exact same reaction to Earley's book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the exact same reaction to Earley&#8217;s book.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Forced treatment in a perfect world by Lisa Loren</title>
		<link>http://lisaloren.com/2008/01/20/forced-treatment-in-a-perfect-world/#comment-907</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Loren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd honestly never heard of Rogers Orders before you brought it up.  It seems to be a court-appointed guardianship for people declared incompetent, which in theory is much harder to get.  Kendra's Law, on the other hand, makes forcibly medicating people pretty easy.  

Massachusetts certainly has had problems with courts assigning guardians to people who could make their own decisions, though.  I've heard most about it with regards to the elderly, but there seems to be a court in Northampton that deals very poorly with the mentally ill.  This may be my age, also, but most of the horror stories I hear are from people under eighteen, where parents are in total control.  State law hardly even comes into play for kids.  

The &lt;a href="http://www.psychlaws.org/StateActivity/Massachusetts.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Treatment Advocacy Center&lt;/a&gt; isn't happy about the state of the law in Massachusetts, which seems like a good sign to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d honestly never heard of Rogers Orders before you brought it up.  It seems to be a court-appointed guardianship for people declared incompetent, which in theory is much harder to get.  Kendra&#8217;s Law, on the other hand, makes forcibly medicating people pretty easy.  </p>
<p>Massachusetts certainly has had problems with courts assigning guardians to people who could make their own decisions, though.  I&#8217;ve heard most about it with regards to the elderly, but there seems to be a court in Northampton that deals very poorly with the mentally ill.  This may be my age, also, but most of the horror stories I hear are from people under eighteen, where parents are in total control.  State law hardly even comes into play for kids.  </p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.psychlaws.org/StateActivity/Massachusetts.htm" rel="nofollow">Treatment Advocacy Center</a> isn&#8217;t happy about the state of the law in Massachusetts, which seems like a good sign to me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Forced treatment in a perfect world by hymes</title>
		<link>http://lisaloren.com/2008/01/20/forced-treatment-in-a-perfect-world/#comment-903</link>
		<dc:creator>hymes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't you have Rogers' Orders in Massachusetts, similar to Kendra's Law? 
 http://psychrights.org/index.htm 

The laws and criteria do matter, but yes, the lack of adequate representation and due process matter just as much if not more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you have Rogers&#8217; Orders in Massachusetts, similar to Kendra&#8217;s Law?<br />
 <a href="http://psychrights.org/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://psychrights.org/index.htm</a> </p>
<p>The laws and criteria do matter, but yes, the lack of adequate representation and due process matter just as much if not more.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Forced treatment in a perfect world by Lisa Loren</title>
		<link>http://lisaloren.com/2008/01/20/forced-treatment-in-a-perfect-world/#comment-902</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Loren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's true, and terrible.  At least in Massachusetts, though, the laws really aren't written that way.  What's on the books seems reasonably fair (although the phrase "serious harm" is a legal mess).  What we need, in my state, are standards to make sure the law is upheld, instead of turning justice over to some psychiatrist.  

I hope you manage to defeat those new measures in Virginia.  The ones in New York have already lead to barbaric practices.  

Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s true, and terrible.  At least in Massachusetts, though, the laws really aren&#8217;t written that way.  What&#8217;s on the books seems reasonably fair (although the phrase &#8220;serious harm&#8221; is a legal mess).  What we need, in my state, are standards to make sure the law is upheld, instead of turning justice over to some psychiatrist.  </p>
<p>I hope you manage to defeat those new measures in Virginia.  The ones in New York have already lead to barbaric practices.  </p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Forced treatment in a perfect world by hymes</title>
		<link>http://lisaloren.com/2008/01/20/forced-treatment-in-a-perfect-world/#comment-901</link>
		<dc:creator>hymes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, the law does not allow people with psychiatric histories to make their own choices in any of the 50 states.  All it takes is a person who wants to force treat the person and a kangaroo court hearing and the person is going to be forced to either enter a psych. unit or take drugs against their will or both. 

I wish and fight for the day when people with psychiatric diagnoses have the same rights as people with other diagnoses but it sure isn't here yet and we're about to go backwards in my state, Viriginia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, the law does not allow people with psychiatric histories to make their own choices in any of the 50 states.  All it takes is a person who wants to force treat the person and a kangaroo court hearing and the person is going to be forced to either enter a psych. unit or take drugs against their will or both. </p>
<p>I wish and fight for the day when people with psychiatric diagnoses have the same rights as people with other diagnoses but it sure isn&#8217;t here yet and we&#8217;re about to go backwards in my state, Viriginia.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Altruistic Gene by Lisa Loren</title>
		<link>http://lisaloren.com/2007/05/28/the-altruisic-gene/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Loren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 11:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I'm co-opting his catchy title for my own purposes, I have to admit that I haven't actually read Dawkins' "Selfish Gene".  I've heard people use the title, if not the themes within, to defend all sorts of selfish behaviors, but in my understanding the 'neo-Darwinist' argument is quite nuanced.  I don't know how this discovery impacts the theory, because I honestly don't have a good understanding of it.  

That said, I would guess that it doesn't have a huge impact.  What I'm describing here is a biological phenomenon - I give money to my favorite charity, and a happy part of my brain lights up.  This is really cool*, but it doesn't imply any sort of evolutionary causality.  I could easily argue that a human tendency to help others exists because that helps the giver, in the end.  My brain might simply be priming me to give because people who give more tend to get more from other people.  

Or, uh, giving to charity is sexy, and so the charitable givers tend to pass on their genes.  I don't know.  Does it really make a difference?  What I see from this is that people are motivated to give to others even when they don't necessarily get something in return.  The evolutionary reasons why this might be are almost beside the point.  

L


*Seriously, isn't it awesome?  I mean, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I&#8217;m co-opting his catchy title for my own purposes, I have to admit that I haven&#8217;t actually read Dawkins&#8217; &#8220;Selfish Gene&#8221;.  I&#8217;ve heard people use the title, if not the themes within, to defend all sorts of selfish behaviors, but in my understanding the &#8216;neo-Darwinist&#8217; argument is quite nuanced.  I don&#8217;t know how this discovery impacts the theory, because I honestly don&#8217;t have a good understanding of it.  </p>
<p>That said, I would guess that it doesn&#8217;t have a huge impact.  What I&#8217;m describing here is a biological phenomenon - I give money to my favorite charity, and a happy part of my brain lights up.  This is really cool*, but it doesn&#8217;t imply any sort of evolutionary causality.  I could easily argue that a human tendency to help others exists because that helps the giver, in the end.  My brain might simply be priming me to give because people who give more tend to get more from other people.  </p>
<p>Or, uh, giving to charity is sexy, and so the charitable givers tend to pass on their genes.  I don&#8217;t know.  Does it really make a difference?  What I see from this is that people are motivated to give to others even when they don&#8217;t necessarily get something in return.  The evolutionary reasons why this might be are almost beside the point.  </p>
<p>L</p>
<p>*Seriously, isn&#8217;t it awesome?  I mean, really.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Altruistic Gene by Cody Trojan</title>
		<link>http://lisaloren.com/2007/05/28/the-altruisic-gene/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Cody Trojan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 07:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm confused, is this consistent with the 'selfish gene' neo-darwinist understanding of altruism as long-term rational selfishness? or is it saying that people do nice things for nice things sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused, is this consistent with the &#8217;selfish gene&#8217; neo-darwinist understanding of altruism as long-term rational selfishness? or is it saying that people do nice things for nice things sake.</p>
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